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« Reply #15 on: January 27, 2010, 06:28:42 PM »

Chambers have their benefits, for example sites that are practically impossible to get stone into the area due to slope and/or space.  I know NO ONE that is willing to take a wheel barrow at a time of gravel from the front yard to the backyard.  Do you?  If so, then I hope they don't charge by the hour.    

There are still light weight products available in Indiana that are much better than chambers, we use EZflow for instance,,,, it floats, don't get lighter than that.
Plus EZflow installs WAY faster than chambers if speed is on your mind.
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« Reply #16 on: January 28, 2010, 01:57:49 PM »

Are you referring to the EZflow that Infiltrator now sells?  With the polysteyrene inside a net?

There is an EZflow gravelless technology approved by Ring Industries approved by ISDH, however I discovered that Infiltrator bought out Ring Industries in 2009 and now sells the product.  However, ISDH has not updated their website with that info.  I'm assuming Infiltrator has not made any changes to the product.

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« Reply #17 on: January 28, 2010, 02:47:35 PM »

Are you referring to the EZflow that Infiltrator now sells?  With the polysteyrene inside a net?

There is an EZflow gravelless technology approved by Ring Industries approved by ISDH, however I discovered that Infiltrator bought out Ring Industries in 2009 and now sells the product.  However, ISDH has not updated their website with that info.  I'm assuming Infiltrator has not made any changes to the product.




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Infiltrator has not made any changes to the standard EZflow but they have a "Denser" product that is identical in every way except the peanuts are of a denser foam.

Last year Infiltrator introduced their version of an EZflow type product at the Pumper show. I was told what I was looking at was all that existed on the planet and it was only finished a day before the show.
Obviously Infiltrator abandoned that idea and bought EZflow. The Infiltrator version was of a denser foam as well so obviously that was a pet peeve with infiltrator wanting something with more density.

I myself have seen no ill signs of the standard EZflow and I have not tried the denser material but may give it a shot this season, it's the same just heavier by volume and more expensive than the standard.


So basically with EZflow you get the best advantages of all the other bed types without the disadvantages.
Pro's
light weight
fast to install
lot of surface area for bacteria
No gravel fines
No plastic roof over the lateral
can bend a trench any way you want no hassle

Con's
Very bulky to deal with
Wind will blow the bales and logs if not anchored while installing or waiting installation
Sunlight can damage it if left out more than a few months (this could be fixed with UV inhibitors which Infiltrator may do)

So it's a light weight gravel bed without the fines or compaction
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« Reply #18 on: January 29, 2010, 12:57:12 PM »

LM,

You are correct, the above document specifically says that the low profile units are approved in Indiana.
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« Reply #19 on: January 29, 2010, 01:46:42 PM »

I updated my Chamber Page on my website.  It now includes the New Quick 4 Plus line of chambers.
http://www.septicdesign.com/septic-lingo/chamber-septic-trenches/
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« Reply #20 on: March 09, 2011, 02:48:44 PM »

Unless a pump is in use there is no difference in distribution on stone systems,,, one or a few holes will always be the lowest point and that is where the effluent will drop from the pipe since flows are extremely slow.

Just uncover a D-box and watch when a toilet gets flushed, that flush will take over 10 minutes to dissipate.

I've seen chambers sink in our Hosmer and Alford soils, I installed inspection ports on ALL my systems and the ports are sinking on everyone I've checked (no they aren't slipping through the chamber)

The worst part of chambers is the plastic roof over the trench, see how your Health Dept reacts when you cover a gravel trench or mound with a long sheet of 6 mill polly,,,,,,
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« Reply #21 on: March 10, 2011, 11:27:46 AM »

The worst part of chambers is the plastic roof over the trench, see how your Health Dept reacts when you cover a gravel trench or mound with a long sheet of 6 mill polly,,,,,,

Don't the side vents allow sufficient air and water movement?
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« Reply #22 on: March 10, 2011, 03:48:59 PM »

vapor moves up and condensates on the top then falls back in the trench.
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