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LM Excavating
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« Reply #6 on: January 21, 2010, 02:25:03 PM » |
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Hey just for kicks,
Mike Market (Guy responsible for Presby in Indiana) always started his presentations with "I am not a Septic Expert",,,,, first thought in my head was always "Yep, then why the hell am I here"
He would always brag how well his system was doing but would never tell you his system is installed in TRENCH format ultimately covering a much larger overall footprint (my opinion the best Presby method) and he has Alford soil if I remember correctly and from what I remember it was installed before the health dept knew about it, at least I know it was years before experimental approval by ISDH.
Mike just lives up the road from me (I've seen his system) and asked me to help him get this product going in Indiana, in which I replied once you get off that smaller footprint crap I may be interested.
Smaller is NOT a bragging point.
How I think of a system is not in trench bottoms or basil area but in total occupied space, largest of which would be trench systems and once you get below that acreage you are pushing the limits in my mind.
In other words, if you have one acre to work with how much system can you fit in that one acre by using it all.
If you used the FULL acre then the sizing would flip and Now Presby would be largest by design figures, mound would be next and trench would be least.
Fact is we still have the same daily flow and the same acre dispersing that flow,,,, so now what do you have to say on sizing???
Little tid bit the trench system would still have the largest interface area.
The reason Presby is designed small is most likely 2 parts,
Most uninformed people think smaller occupied space is better, now we have room for a pool.
2nd and most important, the materials to use Presby in trenches are VERY EXPENSIVE,,
most people DO NOT like that so now we have to figure out how to downsize our material usage to be competitive and package a system in a way we can sell it.
This was the most likely reason Chambers were always and still coming in at a reduction,,,, this way they can be cost competitive and Harvey Homeowner has room for a pool.
The new Infiltrator chamber design,,,, you be the judge,,,
In my opinion it is inferior to the original sidewinder, BUT they pack a WHOLE LOT MORE on a semi these days as they stack better.
Surely a company wanting to make profit wouldn't want to cut shipping cost,,,,, would they???
So FIRST RULE OF THOUGHT ALWAYS,,,,,,,, OK sure you are trying to sell me something but just what am I getting here, and am I supposed to bend over first??
If you put a National TV add out that says eating 10 Big Macs a day will be healthy for you the sales would skyrocket and we would maybe clean out the gene pool in the same stroke.
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